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      <div style="clear:both;"></div>    <div style="clear:both;"></div>CHICAGO -- It's a lower abdominal strain and Griffey will return to Cincinnati instead of going to San Francisco.<br /><br />"You guys know as much as I do," Griffey said. <br /><br />Griffey said he didn't remember anything after the initial shock of pain. He said he knew he threw it, but not sure where.<br /><br />"The best way I can describe it is it felt like somebody bungee jumped off my right nut," Griffey said.<br /><br />Griffey said his groin area had been bothering him for a couple of weeks, but it was something he has been playing through.<br /><br />"It’s been a little sore for a while," Griffey said. "But it’s the situation where the games don’t mean anything for us, but you’ve got to go out there and try to finish strong and hopefully make it hard on other teams. That’s what we were trying to do. I knew I wasn’t going to play much over the next week until Chicago came back (to Cincinnati). It was just one play."<br /><br />Adam Dunn said he's surprised more people haven't gotten hurt at Wrigley because the outfield is in such bad shape. <br /><br />"That outfield is dangerous. I’m surprised more people don’t get injured out there. It’s as bad as there is. It’s worse than playing in a parking lot," Dunn said. "It looked like they had a monster truck rally. There’s potholes. It’s bad. It’s unsafe."<div style="clear:both; padding-bottom:0.25em"></div><div style="clear:both; padding-bottom: 0.25em;"></div>
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        at <a href="#691274611785207280" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:10 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/12822044541396025516" rel="nofollow">griffey3</a> said...
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        <p>Hopefully he will be ok then...heck maybe the Reds will run him out there the last week...got to be fair to OTHER teams right MacKanin<BR/><BR/>Heck we're going to throw out a banged up Homer why not Junior too?<BR/><BR/>The continuosly playing Griffey thing makes me sick! He needed a freaking day off...nothing more! YOU HAVE TO REST JUNIOR!!!!<BR/>Wha Pete did was like putting anothers childs safety ahead of that of your own! STUPID!</p>
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        at <a href="#5181383557787248534" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:16 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15998190599906607177" rel="nofollow">ctrosecrans</a> said...
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        <p>Ken Griffey Jr. is a 37-year old man, not a child.</p>
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        at <a href="#8653622769468747106" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:21 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/12822044541396025516" rel="nofollow">griffey3</a> said...
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        <p>Didn't say Griffey WAS a child...just using an analogy<BR/><BR/>Pete needs to put the Reds first and what is best for the Reds organization and CONTINUOSLY running out Jr. was not that.<BR/>I get the best team possible thing I do, but every once in a while he needs a day off</p>
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        at <a href="#6963065590065885405" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:27 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15998190599906607177" rel="nofollow">ctrosecrans</a> said...
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        <p>he had two in the last couple of weeks and was about to get as many as seven against the giants and astros<BR/><BR/>said jr: "But it’s the situation where the games don’t mean anything for us, but you’ve got to go out there and try to finish strong and hopefully make it hard on other teams. That’s what we were trying to do. I knew I wasn’t going to play much over the next week until Chicago came back (to Cincinnati). It was just one play."<BR/><BR/>Junior is a grown man and a Hall of Famer. If he doesn't want to play, he won't.</p>
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        at <a href="#1917939738188920104" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:28 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15055648767218191619" rel="nofollow">OhioJim</a> said...
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        <p>So does this mean a change in plans for Mr. Bruce or do they tough it through with the available bodies</p>
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        <p>It is bad enough Griffey got hurt, but did he really need to make every man feel sudden pain with that quote?  Did you wince when he said that?</p>
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        at <a href="#3815201316235884639" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:35 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15998190599906607177" rel="nofollow">ctrosecrans</a> said...
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        <p>no, sabo, i laughed my ass off -- as did bronson, who was sitting right there. and so did brook jacoby, who looked at me and said, 'i'm sure that's going to be in your story.'</p>
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        at <a href="#4082599613882110311" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:37 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/12822044541396025516" rel="nofollow">griffey3</a> said...
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        <p>My question is this (seriously no sarcasm), I ask you because you are there IN the clubhouse...In Griffeys 8 years how many times has he asked to not be put in the lineup?</p>
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        at <a href="#2571426715056465323" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:39 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15998190599906607177" rel="nofollow">ctrosecrans</a> said...
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        <p>i dunno... but if he's hurting, and he think it's a danger, it's up to him to tell the manager</p>
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        at <a href="#4256486905147664765" title="comment permalink">9/19/2007 11:43 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/06074558735953322153" rel="nofollow">JerBear</a> said...
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        <p>I cringed when I read that quote by Griffey. I agree you should not have written that to protect us males from some painful thoughts!<BR/><BR/>On Griffey...I've been hearing for the last 3 days that he needs a rest, but the Reds wanted to be fair and play their best lineup against the Cubs and not give the Cubs any extra advantage on the Brewers.<BR/><BR/>Ironically, Griffey was killing the Reds with his defense and hitting in this series because it looked like he was worn down! <BR/><BR/>It's not a big deal, but I think Mackanin kinda goofed on the situation. By running Griffey out there when he was rundown, the Reds probably weren't at their best.<BR/><BR/>Oh well...hope the injury is nothing serious for Griffey. Fortunately, Griffey had over 500 atbats for the Reds this year, so that's all most fans could ask for.</p>
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        <p>i feel partially responsible for cursing griffey.<BR/><BR/>i was at the game on monday (talk about tough to take, it was doubly tough surrounded by cubs fans) and i was talking to a guy from boston sitting next to me in the stands, mostly asking him if they'd like arroyo back for wily mo... :)<BR/><BR/>anyway, we were talking and i made three comments in the space of about 5 minutes<BR/><BR/>1) griffey's been healthy all year, which has been really great.  after his yacht accident in the preseason, i was worried... but he's showed up to play every day.<BR/><BR/>2) damn, that outfield looks like crap.  are they playing soccer here on off days or something?<BR/><BR/>3) (after another strikeout) man, he looks tired.  he probably needs a day off.<BR/><BR/>yuck.  perfect end to a perfect season.  i guess we now know what griffey does in the offseason (letting people bungee jump off parts of his body).  explains his lack of durability over the last few years.</p>
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        <p>Thanks for the reply CTR, yeah there is no way that MacKanin can know what is going on inside JRs body.<BR/>I do get what everyone is saying about Junior can ask for a day off and he WOULD recieve it, it has just been my impression that Griff tries to go out there if he can at all...unlike some people Mr. Asterisk<BR/><BR/>Bottom line I still think Pete should have given Jr a few more days off..and maybe I am so biased when it comes to Jr that I am incapable of rational thought</p>
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        <p>After watching the last 3 games on TV, Griffey never looked like he had anything left. He did help the Brewers by being in the lineup. The competitive nature would have better off with Keppinger or Cantu in right (hey, let's see if they can play the outfield).<BR/><BR/>Putting Ellison or Coats in right sure isn't competitive, even against San Francisco or Houston. <BR/><BR/>Every at-bat tonight, you knew Griffey was going to be bad. I wish he had struck out in the first instead of the DP.</p>
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        <p>Any chance we'll see Votto in Right, Cantu at first, and Kepp at SS?  I'd be excited about that lineup--I like all three of those guys.  I hope Griffey sits out the rest of the season and comes back healthy next year (for another team--I like Griffey, but I think an outfield of Dunn, Hopper and Hamilton gives us a better chance to win, offensively and defensively)</p>
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        <p>I can't help but wonder if Griffey didn't originally tweak himself on the 8th against Milwaukee, when he made a catch and kind of fell into the tarp in foul territory. He ended up in a pretty awkward position.</p>
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        <p>griffey3,<BR/><BR/>Gracious, your rants against McKanin need  to lighten up. <BR/><BR/>I don't know how old you are, but I remember when the Reds were playing for a Divsional title on the last day of the season, and the Dodgers, under Davy Johnson, were playing the team we were chasing.<BR/><BR/>Kevin Brown was scheduled to start. That day, Brown was scratched, and Gary Scheffield benched, and a releiver started the game. The integrity of the game does mean something. The Reds were given no chance that day because of what I consider unprofessioal behavior by Johnson and the Dodgers. I will never forgive them.<BR/><BR/>There are other examples, as well. My point is, Griff was correct to play, and McKanin to let him. We all knew Griff was tired, him most of all. However, he knew he wanted top play, so he did. I admire him for it. He was due to get plenty of rest the next few days. <BR/><BR/>Finally, he has deceided on several occasions he was not ready to play. Early in the year everyone was clamouring for him to get going with the wrist injury-he plainly stated he would play when he was physically ready, and not before. He knew how his body felt, not someone else.<BR/><BR/>Just need to stop and pause before calling your own guys idiots publically. Mac is on our side, you know-I hope for quite some time.<BR/><BR/>I'm a huge Griffy fan. Now, even more so. Mac, however, was doing what he should hve been doing, unless Griff told him different.</p>
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        <p>I could understand criticizing Pete if Jr. had been limping around out in RF, but he hurt himself playing hard, and it was, like his other injuries, a freak accident.  This was as likely to happen in game 1 as it was last night.</p>
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        <p>That game was pretty painful to watch.  If anybody noticed, Griff actually tweaked the injury in the at-bat immediately before.  When he struck out, he winced like something was hurting pretty badly.  Initially, I thought it was his wrist...apparently not.<BR/><BR/>I'd also like to point out that Mark Berry's decision to send Hopper on that play was flat out HORRIBLE.  Norris had barely reached 3rd when Soriano fielded that ball.<BR/><BR/>TRENT, have fun in San Fran.  I'll be enjoying Wilco, live from beautiful Louisville Slugger Field on Friday. :-)  It's not often that I get to see them twice in the span of 3-4 months!</p>
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        <p>Please don't anyone take this as being overly negative or whatever against Mack becuase I agree that he doesn't know what's going on with any player's body unless they let him know and he's obviously moved this team in the right direction - but his comments about being playing regulars to make the competitive balance fair puzzle me.  I think his first priority should be to the Reds - insuring that if young players need looking at that gets done and if that older players sit for whatever reason (like Hatte has) then that's was happens.  It's a shame what happen to Jr and certainly can't blame Mack for it, but I think that maybe there was probably additional opportunities for him to get more days off in Sept than he had.</p>
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        <p>RFIM -- The league directs teams to play (not sit) their best players when a game has possible playoff implications. Last night's game was definitely in that category.<BR/><BR/>As Trent mentioned, the Reds are then free to rest their best players in the following games -- such as the meaningless game tonight in SF.<BR/><BR/>Junior's injury was unfortunate. But he didn't pull a muscle because he was "tired". He pulled it because he was playing on a bad field, as Dunn said.<BR/><BR/>He is also a 37 year old man and a premiere athlete. He pulled a muscle. It happens. He's not a nursing home resident.</p>
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        at <a href="#712783508372290978" title="comment permalink">9/20/2007 2:43 PM</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/08162758613046266592" rel="nofollow">Mr. Redlegs</a> said...
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        <p>Totally agree there were more opps to sit Junior during the month, like the day game (after a night game) against the Cards on the 13th and what turned out to be a blowout win against the Mets on the 5th with an off-day the next day.<BR/><BR/>But Mackanin is certainly not the first Reds manager to ride Griffey hard even when he's obviously dragging. A player of his accomplishments and impact, and the lure of one magical game of yore, has always been a tempting bet, even when Junior should have been batting lower in the order.<BR/><BR/>These managers just can't help themselves. It's like standing over the slot machine and you keep dropping in the quarters--knowing, feeling, hoping that the next one will be the one that hits the payola.</p>
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        <p>With Trent either in transit to the West Coast or already snoring like a Dawg in his San Fran suite, I'd like to steer the discussion a bit on a subject of importance in the season's final 11 days:<BR/><BR/>The manager.<BR/><BR/>Jason Stark of ESPN.com today pointed out eight managers on the hot seat, with Mackanin at 5-1 odds he won't be back. Wrote Stark: <BR/><BR/>"GM Wayne Krivsky is an unabashed Mackanin fan, which can't hurt. But people close to owner Bob Castellini continue to believe that if Castellini could somehow lure a marquee name like La Russa or Torre to his little corner of Ohio, he would have a tough time resisting. . . . But for now, it looks likely, but hardly certain, that Mackanin keeps his job."<BR/><BR/>My take has been that Mackanin has done enough to warrant a one-year contract for 2008 with an option for 2009, exactly what the Orioles gave Trembley.<BR/><BR/>It should also be noted that Krivsky's contract expires after 2008, even though there is a mutual option for 2009. A new GM in '09 will most certainly want his own manager. It's also worth noting that Cardinals GM Walt Jocketty's contract expires after 2008.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, for now, without deference to wild-assed rumors and speculation for La Russa, Torre, MC Hammer, Valentine, Johnson, Yo Mama, etc . . . just how important are the final three series of the season for Mackanin? <BR/><BR/>Has he done enough already to get the job, or would finishing off losing five series in a row (Milwaukee, Cubs, Giants, Astros, Cubs) get him kicked to the door?<BR/><BR/>How would you grade his job performance? Evaluate his strengths and weaknesses. What do you like/dislike about him as manager? And if hired, what would you like to see him do differently as the full-time manager?<BR/><BR/>Curious to read your insights. Yap away. . . .</p>
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        <p>Thanks, Mr. R - hope your road-warrioring isn't killing you. <BR/><BR/>Evaluating job performance means knowing what the manager is being evaluated on. What did Krivsky tell him he wanted to see? We may have some public statements, but can we figure out what criteria WK & Bob C are going to use? (And, will they change their minds - "Sorry, Pete - I know we told you to develop the youngsters, But you didn't win enough games.." Or vice-versa.) <BR/><BR/>The Reds' long-term strategy is important too. Are we gunning to compete in 2008 or 2009? (Even we're aiming to compete in 2009/2010, we probably won't say that - too many fans want us to be competitive every year.)<BR/><BR/>Mr. R - you once said that you are more interested in how a player is playing today, much more so than how he is going to play next year. The manager (& GM) has the unenviable task of doing both, even when that's contradictory.<BR/><BR/>Has Mack got them playing better now? Even though results are falling off lately, it seems so. <BR/>Has he got them where they'll play better in 2008? Well, we can't know that directly (sans crystal ball). <BR/><BR/>If we just focus on development - what are the markers to look for? We've discussed the stats side - some positive trends on offense.<BR/><BR/>But what does a scout (or manager or GM) look for in terms of behaviors that tell us this player is developing. <BR/><BR/>I'll throw out one - who seems to be listening? When working with entrepreneurs -whether it's me or a VC, when you give them advice, do they take it? (You'd be surprised how many bright folks reject advice that their dog would recognize, LOL)<BR/><BR/>Do we have evidence that some players listen to their coaches? EE, Harang, Arroyo, Hobbs, Dunn, Votto & Scott H have all volunteered that they're still learning... but?<BR/><BR/>Good topic, VPC Mr. R!<BR/>(blogger: vpcmr , LOL)</p>
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        <p>I don't feel qualified to evaluate his job performance.  I also don't know the internal goings on of the team.  I don't know if he is managing his game or WK's game.<BR/><BR/>What I do know is I like his aggressive style.  He seems to get something form his players despite being out of the race.  The pen turned around, maybe coincedence?<BR/><BR/>I would not object if he is given an opportunity.</p>
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        <p>I think it's pretty obvious to many that  Krivsky would extend Mack's contract no matter how he finished the season.  Krivsky hand-picked him to be the interim and Krivsky appears to view him as the "yes-man" he wants.<BR/><BR/>Unless BC wants to play russian roulette with his team, ticket sales, and another season he had better bring in someone who knows what the hell he is doing, somebody with a load of experience.<BR/><BR/>I think for Mack to have remained the manager, he may have had to lead this team all the way back.  <BR/><BR/>Two of the biggest components in this teams turnaround have been Hopper and Keppinger, but the only reason they got enough playing time was due to injuries. This team would have continued to flounder, thus making Mack look no more wiser than Narron.  It wasn't some sort of insight that Mack had that aided this team to victories - it was injuries that forced the right players into the line-up.<BR/><BR/>If you don't want to give Mack a 3 year contract then evidently you don't think he's good enough - hence the reason for only a 1 year contract.<BR/><BR/>Is that how you want to go into next year??  With a guy you don't have enough faith in for the long-haul?<BR/><BR/>Let's be done experimenting with inexperience.</p>
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