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<h2 class="date">March 20, 2008</h2>

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<h3 class="title">The Case Of Brenda Martin</h3>

<p>...had my qualified sympathy up until the precise moment in time at which her supporters denounced Jason Kenney's trip to Mexico as a "photo op" that would do "more harm than good". </p>

<p>So, let's get this straight.</p>

<p>You screamed bloody murder that Stephen Harper wasn't doing enough to help, you splattered every Conservative minister within spitting distance of your tantrums, you bawled and threatened and cajoled, and now that someone is making a personal effort to help - you transform Brenda Martin's cause into a political stink bomb.  At about the same time as details begin to emerge that cast a little suspicion on the purity of her  victimhood status.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/03/second-thoughts-about-brenda-martin.html">Nice work, people.</a> </p>

<p>However, I suspect the Harper government will keep doing what they can to help her - in spite of her ingratitude, and despite your complicity in tossing her to a media who views her as little more than a bit of political red meat to drag through the streets.</p>

<p>So, keep your petitions and spare me your guilt trip. I'm not calling my member of parliament. If Brenda Martin wanted a guarantee that the Canadian government would intervene to protect her human rights as a Canadian citizen, <em>she should have chosen to live and work in Canada.</em> </p>

<p><strong>Update</strong> - Exhibiting the level of judgment that likely landed her in prison in the first place, Ms. Martin is now calling efforts to help her <a href="http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5i9ctsI8OdAw9NtjLvZTyfSv0Wf8w">a "dog and pony show".</a> Decide for yourself who's chosen to play the part of horse's ass.</p>

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<p>Thanks for posting this Kate.  I watched her mother last night blaming Harper for this, and immediately wondered where the outrage has been for the last two years.  Couple that with Ms. Martin herself stating that she would not come back to Canada just to go to jail, and this all starts to stink.  Shame on CTV for not telling the whole story (again), missing the point that she willingly worked there without a visa for 10 years; personally chose the lawyer working her case; and of course assuming that she is innocent.  I suspect we can now see the media searching out every person held in a foreign country and bring their tearful story to the evening news.  Each individual case will be PM Harper's fault.  I noted that ex-PMPM also went to see her - how far did that little "photo-op" go to obtain her release?</p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: DWT  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254164">March 20, 2008 11:41 AM</a></span>
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<p>Lisa la 'inflame the situation' was the last straw for me last nite on the Nat.news.Her absolute Cons. bashing,and comments were the point that turned me completely off.Jason Kenney asked her about where the comments re 'photo-op' were when Paul Martin went..she snarkily said something about 'he isn't in Gov't'..dolt!</p>
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<p>The Liberals allowed how many Canadians be tortured for years in foreign prisons.</p>
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<p>Just like in the States when the Dems and MSM attached there little horsey to that mentally unstable Cindy Sheehan.  Libs and Dippers have no shame and will use anyone and everything to further their quest for power and riches.  The MSM knows that when the Libs are back in power they can all go back to sleeping for 13 years and possibly gain a nice, plumb government posting for their [lack] of effort.  Maybe even Governor General....</p>
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<p>she was in Mexico working illegally, she did not use the lawyer recommended by the Consular staff when first offered and she looks tanned and rested - jail hasn't been a picnic I'm sure but it isn't cause for suicide.</p>

<p>She and her friends have now made it very difficult for anything to happen and CTV is at their usual pathetic ambulance chasing best.</p>

<p>What happens is Mexico, stays in Mexico. Her "terrible two's" level tantrums notwithstanding, she made her bed.  Now STFU, enjoy your pillow and let the experts work quietly in the background to get things done.</p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: Fred    at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254171">March 20, 2008 11:53 AM</a></span>
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<p>Regardless of political stripe, in principle, the Canadian government should protect its citizens from persecution on behalf of a corrupt regime's, such as Mexico, corrupt officials. Perhaps Mexico could be reminded that there is sunshine available in other countries that don't mistreat Canadians or hold them for ransom. Perhaps the PMO could suggest same to Canadian vacationers. Perhaps Mexico could become a slightly better place for both Mexicans and travellers if this were to happen.    </p>
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<p>I firmly believe that this is a "manufactured" situation, and suspect that some of our pilfered tax money has been used to grease Mexican palms by those of the Liberano persuasion. What a coincidence that Paul Martin and other Liberano$ have been to Mexico and taken up the "good fight" for poor Ms Martin.<br />
She has suddenly surfaced with all the horror stories and seems to have unfettered access to phones, media and Liberal politicians. The prison system there must be horrible and oppresive to give her so much freedom to cry the blues. The Lib$ didn't get much traction pleading the case of the poor guy on death row in Montana for executing two people, so have had to improve the optics by enlisting the heartwrenching story of the "fragile, suicidal" Ms. Martin.  </p>
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<p>My questions are - how and why was she working in Mexico without a work permit? And after ten years, she doesn't know the language? </p>

<p>And, this strange situation of 'back wages' amounting to ten thousand dollars? How could it have happened that her employer owed her ten thousand dollars in wages? How many months work was that? What was her salary? Her costs? Has she been working for this same guy for ten years?</p>

<p>And instead of paying her rent or ...she immediately put that ten thousand dollars back into his company? And that's not money laundering?</p>

<p>And- what's been happening for two years? Why hasn't she said and done anything already? </p>

<p>Is she innocent? Because she is Canadian? </p>

<p>Again, as has been pointed out, she went to live and work in another country; she is subject to their laws. Yet, she seems to refuse both the laws of Mexico and Canada.</p>

<p>And - the MSM is using it for yet more 'Conservative bashing'.</p>
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<p>Two thoughts.</p>

<p>(1) When I received my passport it came with a booklet outlining what the Canadian Government could and could not do when it came to protecting me in the event of arrest in a foreign country.  This did not include putting the foreign country's legal system to question.  It was merely watching that I was dealt with according to their laws.  http://www.voyage.gc.ca/main/pubs/bon_voyage_but-en.asp#2</p>

<p>(2) My copy of Lonely Planet Mexico is very specific that Mexico operates on a Napoleonic system of justice in which one must prove their innocence.<br />
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<p>Ducktrapper</p>

<p>No one knows what has been done by PMSH.  He doesn't release to the media all his foreign contacts.</p>

<p>Secondly, it isn't up to the PM to issue travel advisories to other countries.  I believe it's the job of Foreign Affairs and I doubt this situation of Brenda Martin where many mistakes have aoccured, many of her own doing unfortantly, will create a travel advisory as you seem to want.  Economic blackmail, other than a complete embargo which will never happen, are essentially uneforceable.  The only thing it would accomplish is create sound bites for the MSM who probably would take it out of context and accuse Harper of being mean-spirited and vincictive against a developing nation such as mexico.</p>

<p>Our government has bigger fish to fry and one country that comes to mind begins with the letter C and ends in a A and is hosting the olympics this summer.  I want Harper condemning those actions first.</p>
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<p>There ya go.  An authentically conservative post.  Plainspoken, no namby pambiness to speak of.  Judgemental - this is key.</p>

<p>There are dozens if not hundreds of Canadian MEN, with penises and hair on their back, imprisoned under sketchier circumstances around the globe.  Nobody gives a crap about them.</p>

<p>Remember William Sampson.  Thirty Three million Canadians guilty of letting one of their own rot in a Saudi Arabian jail for years under the most bogus of charges (white economist detonating bombs???); where were the feminist MSM reporters then?</p>
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<p>I believe this is just another "pseudo-scandal" in a VERY lonnnnggg list the liberals have compiled to attempt to smear the Harper government - along with some very helpful MSM.</p>

<p>So lets get this straight...</p>

<p>For two years now BM has been in a Mexican jail. </p>

<p>Suddenly, liberal MP's are taking up her cause (and visiting her - like they did Scrieber) and blaming the Harper govt for her incarceration.</p>

<p>So - SH himself forced her to work in Mexico, without a visa, and take money (wages??) from a convicted criminal and he forced her to choose a scammy lawyer rather than one of the others recommended by our consulate.  SH himself got the Mexicans to hold her for two years without a trial.  </p>

<p>Stephen Harper is one powerful guy. </p>

<p>So now everyone is clammering for SH to phone the Mexican president and demand she come home - although she says if she does have to come home to jail she doesn't want to come home....</p>

<p>So we have a so called suicidal woman being offered a hand to get out of jail and she refuses because she might have to serve time in a Canadian jail, we have an opposition party accusing the government of photo-ops after they have had their photos taken with her, we have an MSM screaming about the injustice, tracking down every sympathetic friend and family member to show them crying on TV while denigrating the SH government for not getting her out of jail, we have polls asking if we are "doing enough".</p>

<p>Yikes....what's next </p>

<p>Well, I am sure that once this dies down, the liberals will move onto the next pseudo scandal on the list.  </p>

<p>What a country we live in  - anything to detract from the Harper government's success in governing this country.</p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: Alberta Girl  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254183">March 20, 2008 12:10 PM</a></span>
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<p>This whole mess stinks. I agree with Kate. I too had some sympathy until CTV called Kenney's visit a photo op, after making a big deal of Paul Martin's trip. The MSM's flagrant hypocrisy is boundless. The more they rail against Harper the more I'll speak in his favour.</p>
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<p>Thanks for the link, Kate!</p>

<p>This whole thing was gnawing at me yesterday, and so this morning I used my blog to vent.</p>

<p>Brenda Martin had me until she and her supporters started belittling the PM's efforts.</p>

<p>As others have pointed out, her story is not as lily-white as CTV would have you believe.<br />
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<span class="comments-post">Posted by: <a href="http://www.bluelikeyou.com/" rel="nofollow">Joanne (TB)</a>  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254188">March 20, 2008 12:13 PM</a></span>
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<p>Check out that Lisa La phlegme.  </p>

<p>I tell ya her hair is bigger than Mike Duffy.</p>
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<p>I'm so mad I cant speak! Here's a woman that aided and abeted criminals that scamed 60 million dollars from the elderly and gullible while living in Mexico to be immune from Canadian law and now she wants the Canadian govt to help? Keep her there,let her rot,maybe others will think before they try it again. </p>
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<p>Fdsaf/Andrew cuts right to his hobby horse once again: misogyny.</p>

<p>Nice to know a banned leopard doesn't change its spots.</p>

<p>Given his usual M.O. this means he'll post as someone else to slam me or anyone else who thinks he's a tool.</p>
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<p>Yeah, he's cutting pretty close to the one click search & delete function.</p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com" rel="nofollow">Kate</a>  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254194">March 20, 2008 12:21 PM</a></span>
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<p>If she turns out to be guilty this will be terribly embarrassing to the Liberals. However the Liberal spin doctors will attempt to blame others. </p>
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<p>Is anything uglier than leftist do-gooders in action?</p>

<p>They cry you a river, then when you take the bait, they call you names and belittle you for not helping for the "right reasons" or not doing enough fast enough.</p>

<p>If anyone has a name for those kinds of people I would like to hear it. </p>
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<p>As a Canadian citizen, has she been reporting her world-wide income to the Canadian government and paying Canadian taxes, or had she abandoned Canadian residency and the protections and services it affords?</p>
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<p>Exactly!!! Well put!!!!</p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: <a href="http://returnofthetory.btblogs.ca" rel="nofollow">The Trusty Tory</a>  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254201">March 20, 2008 12:28 PM</a></span>
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<p>JW ... the name is Liberals ! <br />
Kate .... my sentiments to a "T" thank you.</p>
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<p>"They cry you a river, then when you take the bait, they call you names and belittle you for not helping for the "right reasons" or not doing enough fast enough."</p>

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I am beginning to think that this is another "manufactured" story by the Liberals and their MSM friends.  </p>

<p>Seems that whenever a Liberal MP "takes on a case" we find out they have visited prior to it becoming "news". </p>

<p>Then we have the main player "dramatically" demanding, crying, threatening suicide, blaming the government, etc. etc. etc.  (a-la Schrieber, Cadman, Montana murderer, and now Martin).</p>

<p>Things just seem a little too over the top and timely for it to be real. </p>

<p>If things are sooooo archaic and torturous in the Mexican jail, how come she makes regular phone calls and is allowed photo ops with opposition government members. </p>

<p>Just some thoughts going through my common sense mind. <br />
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<p>There are  (at least) two issues here.<br />
1. The Brenda Martin case, which is being thoroughly dissected here.</p>

<p>2. All the OTHER Mexican injustices directed at Canadian tourists. They've been thoroughly covered/exposed over the last few years.</p>

<p>The short story is Mexico is NOT a safe fun-in-the-sun destination. If you're not clear on what criminal actions have been visited on Canadian tourists in Mexico, then you need to do some research before booking your flight.<br />
(There are a lot of Carribean islands who would be delighted to share their sun and sand with you while treating you with respect.<br />
http://www.st-maarten.com/  )</p>
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<p>Regardless of the alternative reality propoganda spit out by the CBC/Liberal/NDP axis of evil, Martin is more than likely a criminal and Khadr is definitely a terrorist.</p>

<p>With the constant media emphasis on her mother, Martin is being positioned as an innocent child, wrongly convicted, even though she's 51.</p>

<p>The 21 year old Khadr is as well. They only show one photo of him from when he was 14.</p>

<p>Pathetic  liars, the lot of them.</p>
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<p>I wonder if we should start a contest--a guessing game, I suppose: what will be the next pseudo-scandal cooked up by the Libs and compliant MSM to try to smear the Conservatives?</p>

<p>So far, they've tried (and failed) with Mulroney-Schreiber, Cadman, NAFTA, ... the list goes on.</p>

<p>Note to Liberals: scandals won't actually become stick unless they're real.  Stop manufacturing smear garbage and get on with your jobs.  Sheesh.</p>

<p>'tis true, there's more to this story than the media are letting on.  I lost sympathy as soon as PMPM went down there and there was no cries of "photo op!" but as soon as a Conservative went there....</p>
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<p>I'm clear that all this was ever about was putting the Harper government in a Catch-22 situation: darned if they do, darned if they don't.</p>

<p>The fact that she is "unstable," as her best friend continually asserted, means that anything Brenda Martin says is, basically, suspect, anyway.</p>

<p>I'd love to know who cooked this one up. It has all the earmarkings of the Librano-Scandal-Mongers.</p>

<p>On CPAC last night, Prime Minister Harper made it abundantly clear that if a Mexican citizen was in a Canadian jail and the Mexican President called him to ask him to intervene, he would not have the jurisdiction to interfere with the Canadian judiciary. By extension, neither can PMSH interfere in the Mexican judicial system.</p>

<p>Who do these people think they are: Martin, her friends, the MSM, to cast aspersions on the CPC and PMSH.</p>

<p>Just another attempt to tar and feather the Conservatives. This is going way over the top.</p>
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<p>Note to Brenda; Dr Kovorkian is looking for work.<br />
He can help you. </p>
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<p>"I lost sympathy as soon as PMPM went down there and there was no cries of "photo op!"</p>

<p>I'm just impressed that Paul Martin was sighted.  I guess he must have just got paid for not showing up for work and representing his constituents so he thought he would get more concerned about this lady then his constitutionally mandated duties as a sitting MP.  Hmmm, yep, looks like a photo-op to me when Mr Dithers actually takes a stand on something without changing his position 45 times.</p>
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<p>"There are dozens if not hundreds of Canadian MEN, with penises and hair on their back ..."</p>

<p>So THAT's why there are so many misses at the urinals.</p>

<p>I'm going to Mexico for the fifth straight time in 2 weeks. Can't wait.</p>
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<p>I am currently applying for work overseas and intercontinental in the energy sector. I have traveled a little in the states and once went to Mexico. We had some some talks with the Mexican people where ever we went in Cancun. These people seemed very intelligent and have a very good drive to own their own businesses. </p>

<p>They work in Canada and USA on the tourist down time and everyone we talked to got work visas to work in Canada and USA. They said they did not have any problem with the system that was in place because of labour shortage. They also said that the Mexican government supported this idea because it meant money that could be taxed when sent home and when these people started the businesses.</p>

<p>They also stated that there is the cop crime of taking bribes. This they stated will not be fixed in their lifetime but when their kids are 18yrs old it will be a lot better and when their grand children reach 18yrs old that the system should be fixed and the old system will be weeded out. </p>

<p>My point is that if you are working in a country, you have to have work visa. Have a country contact for the Canadian consulate, follow the rules just as we expect them to follow the rules. We did not party so hard that we fell off balconies, get beat up, work illegally, buy drugs to party harder and we still had a good time.</p>

<p>BM; I do not know why you feel that you have a right to our best lawyers, politicians and our worst MSM to promote your cause of getting out of jail free. You have not paid taxes, supported any of our programs for betterment of society between of Canada and Mexico. So you took the chance of embarrassing the Canadian Prime Minister in power to help you with the cry "I will kill myself" if i do not get out of jail. Maybe the MSM should carry the news of what you have been doing for the last 10 years that you have worked in that country, how much taxes you have paid to their country, but they would not, it is not in the best interests of embarrassing the Conservative Government. Merle Underwood.  <br />
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<p>Here is one fact that the Liberal media is "conveniently" omitting from their Brenda Martin Conservative bash fest: The Mexican government said that when Brenda was arrested on January 19, 2006 the Canadian consul could have had her released within 72 hours BEFORE her charges were officially laid. </p>

<p>Think hard - which government was in charge on January 19th, 2006.  Hint:  Liberals/Martin. </p>

<p>So WHO really dropped the ball right from the beginning? Liberals. </p>

<p>Also, PM Harper said yesterday that there have been upwards of 100 Canada/Mexico exchanges in relation to this case over  the past two years .  For Brenda Martin's OWN privacy reasons these are confidential. </p>

<p>Now the Liberals are breaking all confidentiality rules by broadcasting everything they can dig up about a private citizen's plight and feeding it to the media and goading her on. </p>

<p>I am disgusted.  How many of us woulod want a personal issue broadcast everywhere for political reasons? Brenda Martin did some bad things.  She is not "innocent". As noted, she chose Mexico and worked there illegally for 10 yers without a green card. She claims to not know the language - how did she survive in Mexico for 10 years without knowing the language?</p>

<p>So - Liberal media - check your calendars - the Liberal government let Brenda down in January 2006. The Conservatives are trying to fix the mess. <br />
Period. </p>
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<p>There are more questions.</p>

<p>Apparently, Paul Martin was down in Mexico on business; he didn't go down to specifically visit her. Oh, and he's still getting an MP's salary even though 95% of his time is dealing with is personal business interests.</p>

<p>My further questions. Brenda Martin was apparently working in Mexico without a work visa. What was her legal status there? Isn't this akin to an 'illegal alien'? </p>

<p>Was she doing this to get out of paying taxes? Or was she paying them to Canada?..and therefore, justified in asking for Canadian help.</p>

<p>Apparently, she only work for her boss for ten months. What was she doing there for the other nine years? Who was she working for? </p>

<p>Again, I don't understand her being paid ten thousand dollars in 'back wages' (for ten months?) and then, rather than using it for her own needs, she immediately handed it all,  not some but all, back to him to 'invest'. Isn't that money laundering?</p>

<p>And - what was she doing for the other nine years? </p>

<p>Oh, and why hasn't the adoring MSM investigated these rather basic questions? <br />
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<p>I've been to Mexico many times and have never feared for my safety,then again I'm not a criminal nor do I get drunk and diss the local authorities. </p>
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<p>"Bring me back" she says. I don't want to come back if I have to go to jail.. " Bring us back" says the Leb/Canadians . But when the danger passes  don't expect me to remain living, working, and paying taxes in Canada.   "Take us back" say Mama and Omahr Kadar but don't dare expect us to support your disgusting country. I THINK IT IS WAY PAST TIME TO PUT A CAP ON THIS CRAP.</p>
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<p>As I said, regardless of political stripe and well, just regardless. Sampson's stay in Saudi comes to mind, as well. If we need to change our policy on this issue, so be it.  Foreign Affairs/PMO? Nit pick then. Someone with some clout. Unlike, Saudi Arabia, Mexico depends more on Canada than the reverse. If even 100 people decide, on the advice of the Canadian government (or not), to seek sunshine elsewhere, Mexico loses. Two innocent women, here in Thunder Bay, are still afraid to travel anywhere because they are wanted in Mexico on downright goofy murder charges. I want Canada to defend the rights of its citizens whether the individual merits that concern or not. That is why it's a principle. Some of you folks seem to be ignoring principle for the sake of small time (revengeful) politics. I don't see this as a Conservative vs. Liberal issue. Colour me wrong if you can but I'm sticking to my version, well, unless and until I'm convinced that I'm wrong. </p>
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<p>O.K. Now I'm really angry!!</p>

<p>She's calling Jason Kenney's visit a <a href="http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5i9ctsI8OdAw9NtjLvZTyfSv0Wf8w" rel="nofollow">dog and pony show'!!!!</a></p>
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<p>Candian MSM  is corrupt. </p>

<p>CTV and the Libs are driving this one.</p>

<p>Both are suspect.</p>

<p>It's Stephen Harper's fault, CTV and Brenda's mother have told us so. <br />
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Will we ever know the truth about  Brenda Martin and her entanglements with a convicted telephone  scam  artist  in Mexico? </p>

<p>Not from Canadian  Press or any other MSM.</p>
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<p>I vote for search and delete Kate. </p>
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<p>Ducktrapper and a few others: let me get this straight...in Canada you have Adscam,the CWB, the gun registry,Canadian Steamships, the B. Stronick buyoff,foreign tax havens for the well connected, the persecution of Ezra Levant etc., fire bombings of Muslim homes in Calgary, corruption on the reserves, anarchy in Caledonia, gun battles in Toronto, babies freezing in the snow, immigration corruption, importing sex trade workers, and what about the revolving door for pedophiles, rapists etc. Well I think you get the idea of where I'm going with this...And you want Stephen Harper to do something about the justice system in Mexico??? Your hypocricy is shouting louder than your righteous indignation. </p>

<p>The answer seems to be so simple to me...stay home. But I know you won't because it's cheap here in Mexico and Cuba and China and Thailand and.... And you will keep buying Chinese products in WalMart because they are cheap. And you will go to China for the Olympics...And you will keep doing the same old things and complaining and criticizing other countries but doing nothing of substance because if you do it will cost you money.</p>

<p>When you get Canada straighted out maybe then you can help us here in Mexico.</p>

<p>Al in Mexico</p>
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<p>Why should your sympathy for Brenda Martin have anything at all to do with perceived political opportunism on the part of people who on the whole don't even know her?</p>

<p>Do conservative values somehow suddenly dictate that you not support her?</p>
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<p>¿Dondé vive en México, Al?</p>
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<p>Well said Al in Mexico,Ducktrapper said"unless I'm covinced that I'm wrong",if you are a lefty,which from your post I assume you are,then there is no way of convincing you of anything,lefty's minds are already set in stone,regardless of facts.</p>
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<p>I think Al in Mexico makes a good point - especially regarding HRC's, which like Mexico seem to presume the defendant to be guilty until proven innocent.</p>
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<p>What happens in Guadalajara stays in Guadalajara.  </p>
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<p>h.ryan: "lefty's minds are already set in stone, regardless of facts."</p>

<p>Is there any point in discussing this statement, or is your mind made up, irrespective of arguments that might sway a more flexible thinker?</p>
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<p>Speaking for myself, Crabgrass - my opinion isn't a question of "conservative values", but of reason.</p>

<p>I'm swayed by the facts as I know them, and the behavior of Ms.Martin and her supporters when legitimate help was offered. </p>

<p>Those actions undermined my confidence in their honesty and motives. The result is that I now claims about her innocence, her dire need, with a grain of salt.</p>
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<p>Thirteen years of liberal lies and theft have jaded me into being a rigid right winger.</p>
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<p>That Brenda Martin was threatening to kill herself rather than go to jail in Mexico leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. This reaction is typical of someone who is playing up to the media and government.</p>
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<p>Have the Conservatives cleaned out all the Liberal appointee's after becoming a minority in parliament as the Sask Party is doing in Sask. with a majority.</p>
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<p>I've had it up to here with Brenda Martin and her personal mess since it's starting to look like the media are using this to try for more muck smearing of Conservatives.</p>

<p>When has there been such coverage in the media of a jailed person  weeping and wailing and pleading innocence? Begging her Government to interfere with another government's justice system is difficult to do even with Mexico.</p>

<p>Motor mouth McTeague couldn't get any action either, he knows damned well it's not so easy.<br />
Calling our Conservative Ministers a dog and pony show, I say thanks for the gratitude and go to he**.</p>

<p>CTV's LaPhlegm is quite a piece of work at the best of times but to spin on this story is over the top and pure Liberal smut. </p>

<p>Maybe the Liberal loving CTV and CBC would like to harken back to the William Sampson case how the Liberal government of the day treated him.  He didn't get any help or compensation from Canada, he was a Canadian Citizen of British birth. He has left Canada and gone back to Britain for obvious reasons.</p>
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<p>Try to get this straight. I vote for Stephen Harper's rep here in Thunder Bay because I support S.H. for P.M. In regards to Brenda Martin: I DO NOT THINK NOR HAVE I STATED THAT IT'S HIS FAULT she's where she is or that I agree with her or think she's innocent. I merely think Canada should defend the rights of its citizens when they are being taken away by a banana republic. I generally agree with Mr. Harper, however, if I have to agree with you, count me out. Thank you.   </p>
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<p>Ducktrapper:</p>

<p>"I want Canada to defend the rights of its citizens"</p>

<p>I have no problem with that sentiment but for your consideration:</p>

<p>-Where do these rights start and stop? at the border or do we interfere in other countries affairs. If so can other countries interfere in Canadas affairs. How would you feel about Mexican authorities coming into Canada and demanding the pardon and return of a Mexican? What about the US? What did you think of the Chinese handling of the kid in Calgary. How do you feel about the US going to the middle east to protect their "interests"?</p>

<p>-How do you feel about Ezra Levants persecution in Canada? What are you doing about it?</p>

<p>- Just for the record: Jaun and Maria sixpack in Mexico know there are huge problems here. They know it will take a long time to fix them and there are many who are trying to do so. There have  been huge improvements. There are no better people anywhere than Juan and Maria.</p>

<p>- M. Matt.-La Paz BCS</p>

<p>Al in Mexico</p>
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<p>I still think she looks like  a "Who"</p>
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<p>As usual ET gets to the crux of my hesitations initially - what was she doing there all that time, and illegally to boot.  Naturally the MSM give us the crocodile tears of everyone, next we'll be hearing her dog died and she missed it cause she was incarcerated.  Frankly, the lady made her bed and now has to sleep in it.  Didn't I read somewhere that she gave up her right to a speedy trial because she was doing a Charter challenge and subsequently lost.  When I pointed out that there were too few facts from the other side of the story, CTV didn't post my comment (again).  Our ever vigilant MSM proprogating another anti-Harper pseudo scandal to the ignorant masses.  Just waiting for the photo-op of Rae getting on his white steed and coming to her rescue. PUKE</p>
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democracy, or, more importantly... <i><b>Canadian jurisprudence...</b></i> <br />
if you're foolish enough to <a href="http://hallsofmacadamia.blogspot.com/2008/03/well-theres-real-newsflash.html" rel="nofollow"><i><b>cross their borders</b></i></a>.</p>

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<p><i>cal2</i></p>

<p>I knew I knew her from somewhere!</p>
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<p>Again,  not one investigation of what is really going on with Brenda Martin by the MSM, which is instead, using the case to smear Harper.</p>

<p>I just wantn to have a few questions answered, because the MSM is assuming her complete innocence.</p>

<p>1) Was she working illegally in Mexico, ie, without a work permit? If so, why?</p>

<p>2) How long was she working in Mexico? I hear she's been there ten years. Is this true? If true, and if she was only working as a chef for ten months, then, what was she doing for the other nine years/</p>

<p>3) Was she paying any taxes? To Canada? To Mexico?</p>

<p>4)If she was living in Mexico for ten years, I think she'd have to renew her passport. How did she do this? </p>

<p>5) Why was she owed 10,000 in 'wages'? What was her monthly salary? Where did she live as chef? How much did it cost her? </p>

<p>6) Why did she hand over the full sum of 10,000 back to her employer to 'invest'? </p>

<p>7) Her jailed employer's 'sworn statement' that she knows nothing of his scams, is worthless. He has nothing to lose by making such a statement.</p>

<p>8) Her complaints about her imprisonment don't jibe with the fact that she is allowed full media coverage, video, phone, visits? Who is arranging such publicity? What about publicity for the other women in her jail cell?</p>

<p>9)Why is she insulting the MPs who visit her - but only the Conservative MPs? She didn't insult Paul Martin.</p>

<p>10) Why does she think she is entitled to special treatment? As so many have told her - Canada can't interfere in the justice system of another country, just as Mexico can't interfere in ours.</p>

<p>Now- the fact that there is a great deal of corruption in Mexican governance doesn't deny or doesn't validate that such is operating in her case.</p>

<p>So, why doesn't the MSM investigate? Why is it instead totally, completely, doing NO investigation and simply using it as yet another Bash Harper photo-op. It's the MSM who are into photo-ops. And their agenda is against Harper.</p>

<p>Where's the facts? The investigation? Why can't any of these basic questions be answered?</p>
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<p>She looks like my ex-wife. I vote they keep her forever.</p>
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<p>The CPC has been in government for over two years, and managed to govern effectively, <br />
bring down the deficit, lower taxes & introduced effective, sensible legislation, etc.</p>

<p>The LP held a majority for over a decade and got away with looting taxpayer funds to <br />
the tune of hundreds of millions, if not several billion. Their chief claim to fame <br />
during this stretch was political patronage, stocking the judiciary & gov't services <br />
with liberal hacks, and playing 'scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' <br />
games with the MSM.</p>

<p>Now, bereft of political ideas, cleft in two by internal power struggles, all poor<br />
deer-in-headlights Dion can do is to try to smear our PM with invented scandals to try to <br />
make the CPC & PMSH as dirty as they are/were. As it is obvious that Dion totally lacks <br />
any of the qualities of a leader, the boys in back rooms (POWER Corp.) go to Plan B - <br />
The Rae Solution.</p>

<p>Sadly, this silky voiced serpent is really nothing but a dipper with socialist values, and <br />
can offer nothing but a similar disaster he provided to Ontario, on a country-wide scale.</p>

<p>Heaven help us all.</p>
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<p>'Do conservative values somehow suddenly dictate that you not support her"</p>

<p>Crabby.... my "conservative values" have absolutely no bearing on any "support" for Brenda Martin.  My lack of "support" comes soley from being able to look at the situation through the veil of common sense and say something doesn't seem right. </p>

<p>We have a two year old case that SUDDENLY becomes news because the Liberals decided to use it to show how horrible the Tory government are.</p>

<p>My support has dwindled when she demanded the PM phone the Mexican PM, when she turned on the Tories when they actually made a trip to Mexico to discuss her case, when she said she didn't want to come back to Canada if she had to go to jail... um, Crabby - that to me spoke volumes about this being a "manufactured drama" to evoke sympathy and smear the Tories all at the same time. </p>

<p>So Crabby - I'll save my support for someone who isn't using their situation for political gain.  </p>

<p>It appears that conservative values translate into common sense and the ability to see through someone trying to scam you and I for their own gain.  </p>

<p>There's a sucker born every minute, Crabby and there is a con who will take advantage of any situation.  The Liberals are great at exploiting those situations - (case in point - Schrieber and now Martin  to name a couple of recent ones)</p>
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<p>In Mexico they can plant drugs on teens at the bar and arrest them. If the parents have the cash they can get out. Brenda clearly did not have enough cash. This kind of case has been know for years. You take your risks. At least it is not a country where you can loose your limbs or head.</p>
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<p>Alienated: You could always join me in Mexico! (smile)</p>
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<p>I live near Ms. Martin's hometown of Trenton, and we get regular coverage of this in the press.</p>

<p>My thoughts are always, what in the world did she expect going to live in Mexico? I feel sorry for her, but she lost jobs because she drank too much. She left her family. She surrounded herself with unsavory characters. And then she blames everybody else when her life goes horribly wrong.</p>

<p>Assuming she wasn't part of this scheme, her current predicament is very sad. But it's hardly unforeseeable. People need to realize you reap what you sow. I hope she gets out of jail, I really do. But maybe this case will stop others like her from moving to Mexico. And that would be a good thing.</p>
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<p>IMF: Re the Timeline when this started<br />
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<p>"At least it is not a country where you can loose your limbs or head."</p>

<p><a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2004/12/gay_mexican_cannibals/" rel="nofollow">Actually ...</a> </p>

<p>[warning: linked article has some graphic details]</p>
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<p>Kate, you asked us to decide for ourselves who has chosen to play the part of the horse's ass?<br />
That's a tough one...<br />
I'll vote Lisa La phlegm...when this pity party goes poof hopefully she'll get some mud on her face to cover the lovely Mexican tan that she's getting;Wonder if she is the one who chose to highlight it or did a Lib feed her?<br />
Or Paul Martin for dusting of the cobwebs and coming out of hiding for the photo-op;how noble of him; bet he got a little tan too.He must have taken a left turn in Ottawa and got lost on his way to the Parliament buildings.</p>

<p>Wait...Brenda and her Mom.</p>

<p>Or how about us for starting to have pity on this woman?<br />
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<p>Ms.Martin chose work and live in Mexico.<br />
 PMSH is trying his very best to help her. <br />
  Why! are the MSM and the Lieberal party using this event a "Harper basting"<br />
  Shame!shame!! shame!!<br />
 HOW SICK IS THAT!!<br />
  they should be supporting him.Ann</p>
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<p>"Dog and pony show?"</p>

<p>Feel free to make good your threat of suicide Ms Martin.</p>

<p>Ingrate.</p>
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<p>who the hell takes a cook to mexico where you can get one for five bucks a day?</p>
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<p>Like the idiot who goes skiing in an avalanche zone, then expects everyone else to save his a$$ when the s#$% hits the fan.</p>

<p>Like the idiot who marries a foreigner, goes to the spouse's country, and then cannot leave, and expects everyone else to save her a$$.</p>

<p>Like the idiot who abuses their Canadian citizenship, lives and works in Lebanon, and expects everyone else to save their sorry a$$es.</p>

<p>I am getting sick and tired of all these idiots expecting my government to save their sorry a$$es.  If you want to work and play overseas, you should either have to post a bond, or fend for yourself.</p>

<p>TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS, A$$HOLES!</p>
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<p>How often have the german authorities tried in influence Canada to send a certain wanted man back to face charges. What whould the media and opposition say about another country interferring in our justice system. Is there any chance this is all an effort to support Raes plans for changing our foreign affairs are done in Canada.<br />
Trying to make scandals out of cdns who have run afoul of the law in other countries would be good cases for him to illustrate. <br />
Several references have been made re not being in a country that has beheading. Wasn't a woman beheaded the other day in Ont.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.northumberlandtoday.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=951459" rel="nofollow">Brenda Martin supporters to rally on Parliament Hill, Ottawa, March 29</a>.</p>

<p>Shouldn't they be doing it right away if she's suicidal?</p>
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<p>ducktrapper</p>

<p>"I merely think Canada should defend the rights of its citizens when they are being taken away by a banana republic."</p>

<p>Yes. But short of invading with our single tank and the one or two jets, what do you want the dept. of Foreign Affairs to do? Oh, I forgot, let's embargo their harbours with our rusty, broken down diesel subs.</p>

<p>They are doing what they can. The MSM are playing games, as usual.</p>
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<p>Is this just another example of the "soft racism" of the Left?</p>

<p>The idea that Canada can circumvent the Mexican judicial system just by Harper asking the Mexican President to intervene sounds a little patronizing and colonial.</p>

<p>The Mexicans have a judiciary and I'd hope it's independent of the executive.</p>

<p>The Left would be outraged if Canada turned a Mexican over to Mexicans. Partly because that would go against out liberal democratic tradition of the independent judiciary.</p>

<p>They, however expect that those 'brown people' have such a rinky-dink system anyway, that the principles, traditions and independence of the Mexican system can be ignored and worked around simply by being asked by one of their 'betters'.</p>
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<p>it's starting . .  the slippery slope of whiners are lining up.</p>

<p>http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gAlftHZxaZNAu44Wszap154mLaqg</p>

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<p>MONTREAL — Supporters of a Montrealer jailed in India want the Canadian government to send an elected official to his appeal hearing next week.</p>

<p>They say Saul Itzhayek should benefit from the same treatment afforded Brenda Martin, the Canadian woman who has been stuck in a Mexican jail for two years.</p>

<p>Two Conservative MPs flew to Mexico earlier this week to meet with Martin and push her case with Mexican officials.</p>

<p>A group of religious leaders gathered in Montreal Thursday to call on the government to ramp up its efforts to free Itzhayek, who was given a three-year sentence last year for a visa violation.</p>

<p>Supporters have grown increasingly concerned about his safety since his prison was rocked by explosions in recent days.</p>

<p>An Indian high court ordered an appeal of Itzhayek's conviction last month.</p>

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<p>Repatriating another alcoholic.. nice.</p>
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<p>Martin insists that she knew nothing of the massive scam, and he employer backs her claim.  Yeah, he's just SOOO credible.  </p>

<p>From the sound of most reports, her life is well past saving. Her miserable existance can be carried out pretty much anywhere.</p>

<p>When your uncle didn't help you when he was in charge of the country, why should anyone else help you now Ms. Martin. In particuler those who you dismiss as a "dog and pony show"?  Guess we'll just have to wait and see if she's convicted and then maybe (BIG MAYBE) consider repatriating her to serve her sentence.</p>

<p>When you decide to go somewhere the rules are followed in a fast and loose fashion, you should keep in mind that the sword has two edges.</p>
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<p>In Mexico it's very important to pay-off the right people in order to insure a long and peaceful stay, that's the Traditional Way and there's no shortcuts.<br />
Besides the evidence is clear, Mexican criminals much prefer U.S. jails for their amenities and a more transparent justice system with free, court-appointed representation - she really would have been better-off is she were caught in the U.S.</p>
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<p>Let her rot in jail for another 2 years.</p>
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<p>I won't link to it, but the Liberal website has just  posted this:  "Just Like His Ministers, Stephen Harper Fails Brenda Martin".</p>

<p>This whole thing is starting to reek.</p>
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<p>When I first saw her buddy  Deb Tieleman on CTV and the smug air she presented which matched in an equally smug manner by the taking hairspray helmet who interviewed her I had a qualm about the whole thing.<br />
After the film of her bawling and bleating on I was wondering if she was for real. After two years of being locked up ... there should be a tougher hide than that ... but who's to say?</p>

<p>So now THIS??</p>

<p>Let her "Friends and Supporters" put their money together and bribe her out.... It's Mexico and it will work.... no more sympathy here.<br />
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<p>See?  More proof that we conservatives are mean.  How come we are as caring and compassionate as the Left?  Oh right, because they only care about criminals.  </p>
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<p>From what I can find out:</p>

<p>Brenda Martin worked for someone, Waage, in Mexico in 2001. For ten months. He, originally from Edmonton, was charged with scamming 60 million. He's in a US jail since 2005 for ten years. His sworn affidavit that she knew nothing is not worth a penny. She wasn't picked up and charged until 2006. (?)</p>

<p>Brenda Martin supposedly agreed to her employer's request to have $26k (not 10k) placed into her account and that once that money was deposited, she was to withdraw those funds minus her commission, and then forward that cash on to a predetermined destination. That's money laundering.</p>

<p>"Martin started working for Waage in May 2000 as a chef, earning about $500 a week. Waage fired her in March 2001 at the behest of his mother, who had been offended by Martin. Waage paid Martin severance of a year's salary -- $26,000"</p>

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Rather than fighting the veracity of whether or not she was involved in Waage's internet scam, to my understanding she attempted to invalidate the charge against her by saying that it was 'unconstitutional'; that she should have been provided with a translator.</p>

<p>That's all I can find out. What other work she was doing; whether or not she had work visas (apparently not); did she pay taxes..etc.. She was working at a Puerto Vallarta jewelery store in 2005 when the Mexican police picker her up.</p>

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<p>LaPhlegm was right that Paul Martin isn't "in government" but he is a sitting MP, for what that's worth. Could it be the Media are miffed with Martin for calling the Inquiry into Adscam and taking their beloved Liberals out of power?</p>

<p>Brenda Martin supporters can rally their butts off on our Parliament Hill but they'd be better off taking their butts to the Mexican Embassy and shout boycott tourism to Mexico loud and long. </p>

<p>Our Government can't start a war over someone's problems with a foreign legal system without knowing the full facts.  They should push for a speedy trial which our government and others have asked for.</p>
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<p>"At the time of her arrest, Mrs. Brenda Martin was illegally in the country, without a work visa. The Mexican government has never filed any charge whatsoever in that regard.</p>

<p>- Mrs. Brenda Martin maintained a close relationship with Alyn Waage for a fair length of time. This leads to the supposition that she had some knowledge of the criminal activities in which her friend was engaged.</p>

<p>- When INTERPOL, along with the Mexican government, decided to arrest the band of defrauders, Brenda Martin was included in the group. </p>

<p>- The Judge opened a global file to indict those involved in the criminal case.</p>

<p>- The four lawyers Brenda Martin retained during the past two years never separated her case from the other individuals standing accused of fraud, having had the legal ability to do so. In not doing so, she remained linked to them and included in the global file comprising 25,000 pages.</p>

<p>- Brenda Martin’s current lawyer filed an amparo alleging that her constitutional rights had been violated. After five months of review, the Constitutional Review Tribunal ruled that there had been no breach of the Constitution in her proceedings. While the Tribunal reviewed the case, the previous legal proceedings were stayed.</p>

<p>- According to official reports, the case is to be concluded shortly. The lengthy resolution of the case stems from the complexity of integrating a file of international scope, involving acts in various countries and languages. The delay in Brenda Martin’s case is due to the fact that her defence lawyers never separated this issue from the larger case."</p>
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<p>Yes there is a lather over this, and an unfair one at that....especially because of the lack of holding the feet of others to the fire for Mr Samson, that was a regrettable display by foreign affairs.</p>

<p>The only part I believe Ms Martin and her supporters have a handle on is that she should stand trial.  Perhaps I am wrong but I believe the issue she has been sitting in a Mexican jail, charged but not not tried.  </p>

<p>That would make allowing her to come to Canada difficult because what sentence would she serve up here, as she isnt convicted of anythign yet.</p>

<p>If she has been convicted but claims to be innocent then there is little canada can do other than to ensure she gets to appeal etc etc.  or agree to take her back and serve some of her sentence in canada.</p>

<p>Once again the issue I would support her on is the lack of trial.   If she has been tried and convicted then there really isnt a big debate here, you can find lots of people in jail who say they were wrongfully convicted.</p>

<p>But as a believer in due process she should have had a trial by now or a date should be approaching soon.  The governments responsibility is to ensure that the investigation was done, that the trial follows the rules of the country, that there is no torture or other human rights violation and that she gets assistance from the consulate if she cannot get a lawyer.</p>

<p>If she is asking for more thank that then I must be missing something here.  And shame on the Liberal party for being so hypocritical when compared to Bill Samson.   This shouldnt be a political issue but one that is only about garnering attention...after that the parties should be pretty much on the smae page.....sad.</p>
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<p>kingstonlad......</p>

<p>...is Canadas lad! A pox on all Liberal sleaze moonbatters! Enough! Lousy cooks are a dime a dozen.</p>
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<p>We expect the United States to defend us militarily should we also expect they should intervene on behalf of our citizens if we feel their rights are violated by a foreign government.<br />
Will Dion and Layton go to Washington and plead with George Bush that he come to our rescue since they found out the United Nations is ineffective and useless?</p>
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<p>I may regret posting this but here I go anyway...</p>

<p>I just read ALL of the comments at CTV on the Brenda Martin story and what is striking to me is how a lot of women ( I did not say ALL women ) have little understanding of law, politics and what our prime minister can do about something happening outside Canada.</p>

<p>And it is striking how many women have a non objective and very emotional reaction to Brenda Martin and are not asking one damn question about facts.</p>

<p>It seems the average woman - simply because the story is breaking their heart - is taking the side of Brenda Martin.</p>

<p>On the other hand<br />
Most of the commenters who's judgement is not affected by Brenda Martin's tears and who are looking at the facts we have so far and who are asking for more facts are men...</p>

<p>No wonder women tend to be liberals...all emotion and not logic.</p>
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<p>You can't live in Mexico--or any Central American country (I know, Mexico is technically in North America, but it operates more like a Central American country)--for ten years and not understand their way of doing things.</p>

<p>Just a few months in Central America and I was getting pretty wise to how things were done and realized--not that I had any illegal activities in mind--that they were very different than here in Canada and that if you got into any trouble, you'd better pray hard and "get out of Dodge," FAST if you didn't want to rot in one of their jails. Either that, or have a big wad of cash handly.</p>

<p>Sadly, Brenda Martin seems not to have followed any of these basic "rules" about not landing in a Mexican jail. She's screwed up, big time, and now is milking the MSM and the Canadian public's sympathy, to get her out of HER problems. If she has a drinking problem, that would definitely fog her common sense/street smarts.</p>

<p>Lisa Laflamme, the MSM, and the Librano$ need their collective bu**s kicked for their exploitation of Brenda Martin's plight and for trying to implicate the CPC.</p>
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<p>Friend - As a Woman, just let me say...</p>

<p>Touche!!,  Right on!,  Absolutely!!!</p>

<p>The differnce... conservative women think with their heads while liberal women think with their hearts. </p>
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<p>This anti-Harper media campaigning is kind of familiar, isn't it?  I remember the CTV "Whistleblower" story Kate linked to here last May:  "Quebec Mother Diane Levesque is in a lonely, desperate battle, trying to convince the Harper government to allow her mentally-ill son to come closer to home."</p>

<p>It went like this:  Mom was "temporarily" living in Florida.  Her 19 year old son, mentally ill and not taking his meds, who was visiting, went to a bar, got kicked out. His stepfather gave him a gun.  Son returned to the bar, pointed the gun at various people, repeatedly pulling the trigger;  gun didn't discharge.  Son tackled by staff who held him until police arrived.  Later convicted on four counts of attempted murder.</p>

<p>"He should be back in Canada," his mother told CTV News' <i>Whistleblower.</i></p>

<p>Stockwell Day denied the request:  "You were involved in the commission of violent offenses involving the use of a firearm.  These offenses could have resulted in death or serious harm to any of your four victims..."</p>

<p>CTV News asked the young trigger-puller how it felt to read that letter: "Worst moment of my life...I couldn't believe that.  <i>My own country...</i>"</p>
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<p>Friend of USA...I hope you didn't think you were going to be called sexist...??<br />
You are very correct in you observation.As a woman..I also agree!!<br />
Alberta girl has it right on!!</p>
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<p>Yah, she had my sympathy for a little while too until I realized that there was some time between her boss's arrest and hers. She could have got herself out of Mexico way before she was arrested. Having said that, Canada is not terribly good at helping it's citizens abroad generally, certainly the Americans are better at it. AS for the media, well what can I say that hasn't already been said. Mike Duffy tried though, yesterday to take a more balanced approach...ciao</p>
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<p>Apparently, while the work the PM and our government is doing on her behalf isn't good enough for Martin, it would be welcome by others imprisoned overseas:</p>

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<p>"Supporters of Montrealer jailed in India want same treatment as Brenda Martin"<br />
"...They say Saul Itzhayek should benefit from the same treatment afforded Brenda Martin, the Canadian woman who has been stuck in a Mexican jail for two years..."</p>

<p>The "dog & pony show" comment was an immensely stupid move in a series of immensely stupid moves by Ms Martin. I will, however, give her the benefit of the doubt, and chalk it up to frustration. </p>

<p>However, she doesn't seem to realize the Prime Minister of Canada doesn't run Mexico. Even the Mexican President doesn't run his country's legal system. Neither has a magic wand. </p>

<p>If anyone's turning it into a "dog & pony show", it's Dion and the Libs.<br />
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<p>I can hardly wait until this blows up in the faces of the MSM and the Liberals.  <br />
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<p>So far, neither Don Newman nor Mike Duffy have covered the Brenda Martin case. I'm keeping a close eye on both!</p>

<p>I'm hoping this means that the story has lost its legs and that both CTV and CBC realize their attempts to tarnish the CPC and PMSH are backfiring.</p>

<p>It's one thing to defend a law-abiding citizen who's run into some difficulties in a foreign country and quite another to defend someone who's dealings in said foreign country are shady, to say the least.</p>
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<p>Take this for what it is. Another Liberal scheme to try and cast bad light on the Conservatives. Leave her in Mexico to rot!!! No MP from any party should have intervined EVER. If these bleeding hearts are so concerned let them pool their money together and get her a Mexican lawyer. Or better yet go protest and whine outside the prison gates. I have never sympathised with this woman and would take the word of a corrupt Mexican offical over a Libral anyday!! I see the CTV is now whining about some guy in a prison in India. Perhaps the Government should start a travelling legal roadshow going from country to country negociating with foreign governments to release their criminals - Sounds like a perfect job for Jack bin Layton.</p>
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<p>CTV has now changed the gist of the story - Ms. Martin now claims that she is a political pawn.  CTV has a picture with the story, if you enlarge it, you can see the nice tan line where her watch used to be.  This "poor me" story gets stinkier all the time. First they conplain that the government has done nothing , then complain when they get what they requested.  I have only one word for this woman and her mother - INGRATE.</p>
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<p>I have been wondering lately if Stephen Harper feels like he is having to constantly swat annoying flies from around his head.  It seems that the Libs and their MSM friends can't even get done with one pseudo scandal before they start on another one. </p>

<p>Swat, Swat, Swat - he must just sigh and say - Here we go again - get me the fly swatter. </p>
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<p>Around 5:51, Duffy mentioned Brenda Martin to Owl Oliver and Giggles Taber. They spent about 45 seconds on it.</p>

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<p>The Germans have been after the Canadian Government to extradite or deport Karl Hans Schreiber for eight years.</p>

<p>How for have they gotten with that?</p>
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<p>There is a point where we should intervene on behalf of citizens. Take the Samson case or the British Muhammad teddy bear case.</p>

<p>Samson was obviously framed.</p>

<p>The British woman was arrested for something which would not have been a crime in Britain, or in any other rational country.</p>

<p>So Canada should intervene when people are obviously framed, or when it's an issue of conscience, as in the case of the British teacher or many Chinese dissidents.</p>

<p>In Martin's case, though, she was arrested for something that would have been a crime here. It does not look like she has been framed.</p>

<p>There is, of course, the question of the corruption of the Mexican system, but she basically made that question null by agreeing to live there, on her own accord, for 10 years. And this wasn't a mercy trip like the British teacher who was just trying to help the Sudanese. This was a woman who wanted to live in the sun and get what she could out of it. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as long as she takes responsibility for what she was doing.</p>

<p>So, I agree with Stephen. The only thing the Canadian government should be fighting for is that she gets a trial. After that, there's nothing to be done. This is not analagous to Samson at all. </p>

<p>I wonder why people can't see that?</p>
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<p>ET, you have pulled together in a few minutes more information that any of the media even the Toronto Sun have provided. As we know the MSM in their selective filtering of anything that will show the CPC in a positive light would never print the facts. </p>

<p>Friend of USA I have found the same thing with my wife and my female friends and acquaintances. They rarely look at the facts and go almost strictly by emotion as in this case. I brow beat as many as I can into voting conservative but a lot support the Liberals no matter what.</p>
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<p>What's with that lock of white hair on Lisa La Phlegme? Can't she dye that thing? It looks like she got in a tangle with a skunk or she had a severe shock...</p>
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<p>Maybe Brenda,family, & friends were "bribed" by the libs to put on an act?</p>
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<p>The Kadhr  "child soldier" son of Bin Laden Al Queda terorist and brother of a sister who has claimed that she is wanting to put on a suicide vest  and blow herself and others up while living in Canada with her mother and other members of the Kadhr family being supported by you and me on welfare - it all started under the Liberals too.  Just like the Brenda Martin case. </p>
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<p>Freind of the USA - you are absolutly correct about us women.  We see a mess like Brenda and 'feel' for her instead of wondering why she got herself into the mess in the first place.  My Dad always brought my Mom and I thundering to the ground with facts - we both survived with hearts but we are sceptical....</p>

<p>Maybe Puffin/Dipper women don't have Dads.</p>
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<p>Kate,</p>

<p>I know what you mean, but truth is Canada has a poor record of looking after its citizens when they are in need abroad.</p>

<p>This case is perhaps not the best example to use given the behaviour of the person involved.</p>

<p>But based on what I've seen over the years I certainly wouldn't count on Canada coming to my rescue in a timely fashion were I down a hole in a foreign country.</p>

<p>The US is quite a different place in this regard.</p>

<p>Canada always appears on the scene waving its "We are pacifists" card, and that's just not the sort of thing that tinpot countries listen to.</p>

<p>Problem is we don't carry a big stick at times when we should, because that's considered un-Canadian.</p>
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<p>Perhaps it is incumbent on the part of the Conservative Government of Canada to create a number of units of elite commandos in order to go and show the governments of the world that we mean business when we say that we want the imprisoned Canadians back.<br />
Guilt or innocence is not the issue; the Liberal Party of Canada demands it, end of story.</p>

<p>In case, that the foreign governments do not act as requested and use their justice industry to be mean to Canadians, the commandos should be used to pluck the parties out of the other countries as the Liberal Party of Canada see fit. Even it means going to war. The other countries have no right to follow their laws when Liberal Party of Canada can simply show them the error of their ways.</p>

<p>On the chance that the Liberal Party of Canada will become the government, the above mentioned conditions don’t apply, since the press agents of the Liberal Party of Canada, the CBC, and eastern media in general, will not bring this up as a situation that would require attention.<br />
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<p>why do women tend to be looney in public.?</p>

<p>http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080320/kansas_toilet_080320/20080320?hub=TopStories</p>
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<p>The drift one gets from the comments on CTV’s, Top Stories is that most of those people that are saying, that the government must get this person out of prison, out of Mexico is, that this is quite simple procedure, just tell the Mexicans to stop being mean to her, hand her over and everything will be fine.</p>

<p>Are these people real?</p>

<p>This point has nothing to do with guilt or innocence, prison conditions or anything else, it has to do with this simple minded idea that you order another country to hand over someone that is in prison to hand them over, no questions asked, no excuses, no nothing, just hand them over, never mind all that other stuff.<br />
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<p>There was a point made in the movie Shawshanks redemption, where the character of Robbins come to prison and talks with the character of Morgan Freeman.</p>

<p>Robbins’s character is telling Freeman’s character that he did not do it, where the Freeman’s character replies, ‘this prison is full of people that did not do it’.</p>

<p>As the Roman orator said about certain pregnancy, ‘only the woman knows who is the father’. <br />
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<p>after reading here, I can say CONSERVATIVE WOMEN ROCK:-))))))))</p>
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<p>"Are these people real?..."</p>

<p>Yes they are and the vote Liberal and NDP and Green...<br />
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<p>"The drift one gets from the comments on CTV’s, Top Stories is that most of those people that are saying, that the government must get this person out of prison, out of Mexico is, that this is quite simple procedure, just tell the Mexicans to stop being mean to her, hand her over and everything will be fine."</p>

<p>I commented over at CTV when there were only two comments - they are now closed and I do not see my comment among those printed. </p>

<p>Could it be because I was expressing the "wrong" comment.  Could it be they were getting too many negative comments. </p>

<p>hmmmm</p>
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<p>So, how do you think the Germans feel when they have bee trying to get KarlHeinz Schreiber handed over to them from Casnada for 8 long years. </p>
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<p>every day I visit this site and come across several more reasons to hate the liberals and the MSM</p>

<p>I'm Canadian but am thinking about becoming an illegal down in the States - that's how much I loathe Canadian liberalism</p>
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<p>You get out of line in Canada and you get tazed to death. Hard to have the high ground with another country picking up suspected con-artists. Give back the share of the spoils of the con and all may have been forgiven. "Is there some fine I can pay." Brenda appears to be a fighter which did not work out. Did she think Kenney was coming to pack her up and bring her home. Officials meet officials to have both sides of the story.</p>
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<p>I fell for the Roy Green show charade and sent in an email to the PM.  Regrets now.  Amazing, the  Roy Green show on Sunday and then the by elections on Monday. Vancouver Quadra was won by the Libs with a majority of 151.   The show probably influenced the result of that vote, especially the females as earlier posters here have stated. I will try and get on Roy Green show this weekend and chew him out.</p>
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<p>This is from Joanne's link about the BM rally on March 29th. The rally (in several cities yet) seems to be a Liberal sponsored event (seems like a photo op to me!). It appears that the Liberals have been involved in this cause celebre for some time. This whole thing is getting curiouser and curiouser.  <br />
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"Mr. Macklin, the Liberal candidate for Northumberland-Quinte West, and a former MP, founded the Save Brenda Fund.</p>

<p>Money raised by the fund is going toward her legal defence and health needs.</p>

<p>Mr. Cleary, a third-year student of political studies at the University of Toronto, has been working with Mr. Macklin since last summer to gain Ms. Martin's release.</p>

<p>University students are involving themselves in the rally along with people across the country, he said in an interview yesterday morning."</p>
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<p>“It seems that former Liberal MP and current candidate, Paul Macklin, has been working with her supporters for some time now. He founded the Save Brenda Fund and I believe it was largely his efforts that made this the issue it is today.” – Jason Cherniak</p>

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<p>So what is really going on?</p>

<p>Who’s “dog and pony show” is this?</p>

<p>Do they want the gov’t to help or not?<br />
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<p>"I fell for the Roy Green show charade "</p>

<p>I finally had to turn him off- he was OVER THE TOP! </p>

<p>i couldn't belive how he fell hook line and sinker for the friend's side of the story, with no questions that were begging to be asked. </p>
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<p>every day I visit this site and come across several more reasons to hate the liberals and the MSM</p>

<p>I'm Canadian but am thinking about becoming an illegal down in the States - that's how much I loathe Canadian liberalism<br />
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Brad you've got really bad timing.... the US is about to coronate either Prince Obama or Queen Hillary..... your looking at 4 years of Liberal Democrat Socialists running the US into the ground... and however long it takes to clean up the resulting mess.<br />
Better off moving to Mexico.....</p>
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<p>ET and all: This Brenda Martin story is just weird. One would think that after all the efforts spent trying to get attention to her story, that one would show a little more appreciation towards the people (ie: MP Kenney)that are trying to help her. I have always said that when you are in a foreign country that you must remember that you are a visitor and that the rules of their country apply. At first, I was feeling sorry for Brenda, not no more! It seems like it is just "another scandal" made curtisy of Liberals, Paul Martin, CBC and CTV. <br />
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Why Paul Martin can't show up for the House of Commons to vote on Bills?<br />
How does he have the time to make a visit while he is in Mexico to Brenda Martin? (2 year old story)<br />
Has the forward in the Chuck Cadman book? (approx 2 years in the making)<br />
Makes one just go hmmmmmm, it just stinks!</p>
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<p>The only thing missing from this idiotic Mexican vacation story is Hurricane Krista in a leather thong reporting live from the prison via Black Berry.</p>
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<p>"Maybe Brenda,family, & friends were "bribed" by the libs to put on an act?" -- I don't think so, but I am pretty sure they are being duped by the Libs.  With the BM rally on the 29th, the Liberals are turning this into a public spectacle intended to embarass the Conservative government.  Pretty sleezy.  </p>
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<p>I used to have more respect for Roy Green than I do now after his week long tirade about this woman.  He hosted the diddler online show and that is the only time I would listen to that doofus, but after last week I am perplexed as to who is the stupider doofus Diddler or Green they both squall on and on about this all being Harpers fault.  Why can this country not grow up and take responsibility for ourselves.</p>
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<p>See, THAT is the Kate that originally brought me to SDA.  You have to <b>write</b> more, Kate.  I'm not saying you aren't doing a great job in general; you certainly are; but your posts absolutely shine when you pull the rifle out of the bag and actually squeeze off a couple rounds rather than just eying a target through the sites.</p>

<p>Anyway, about Brenda Martin. Reading through the linked articles provided I feel the same contempt for her apparent ungratefulness as I did (and do) for the ungrateful dual-citizenship Canadian Lebanese who demanded the government get them out of Lebanon, some 7500 of whom returned to Lebanon at the end of the Israel-Hezbollah war.</p>

<p>At the same time, if I were in her shoes I would not expect the government to shift Mexican authorities any more than they did Saudi authorities who held William Sampson.  It's one of the main reasons I am highly selective of the nations I visit for business or pleasure -- Foreign Affairs' position is basically hands-off: if you get in trouble you're on your own and will be dealt with according to the laws of the land in which your find yourself in trouble.  It's one of the main reasons I am astounded that people are still booking travel to Mexico.</p>
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<p>"You have to write more, Kate."</p>

<p>The secret to good writing is to wait until you actually have something to say. </p>

<p>;-)</p>

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<p>"I certainly wouldn't count on Canada coming to my rescue in a timely fashion were I down a hole in a foreign country."</p>

<p>Nor would I. As a result, you and I are less likely to misbehave in a shithole of corruption and filth like Mexico, expecting the Canadian government to wave a Magic Wish Wand and extract us from our troubles.</p>
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<p>A few of you have mentioned Sampson. I'm having an unpleasant flashback remembering that all the news stories about Arar simply, matter-of-factly stated that he had been tortured [no physical evodence - no corroboration], whereas the Sampson mistreatment was always "alleged".  </p>

<p>I'm with the many posters who see this as the latest in a series of Liberal frauds.  And you know what - this stuff is hurting them. Note to Liberals: please keep it up, it ain't working.</p>

<p>ET, taxes: As a non-resident she has no obligation to pay Canadian taxes. The US taxes world income of its citizens; Canada, world income of residents, whether citizen or not. Canada has very stringent tests which have to met to establish non-residency.</p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: Me No Dhimmi  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254455">March 21, 2008 12:26 AM</a></span>
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<p>"... Sampson mistreatment was always "alleged"."</p>

<p>The disconnect you is directly related to the ethnicity/culture/religion of the victim, whether or not s/he's a member of a visible minority.</p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: <a href="http://mark-peters.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">mark peters</a>  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254457">March 21, 2008 12:37 AM</a></span>
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<p>Wanna bet she finds some way to sue the government of Canada for her mistreatment in Mexico once she gets out?</p>
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<p>Alberta girl, Bluetech, Jema54 and Dave,</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

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<p>It will be interesting to see what Roy Green has to say this weekend.  I have been p-od about his shows on this topic since last weekend when I ended up turning off the radio each and every day when this topic came up.  I decided today that he deserved to know that there was one listener out there that turned him off so I sent an email to him.  </p>

<p>I know I am just one person which probably will not make a bit of difference, but he deserves to know how his shows are affecting his listening audience. I sent the following to him. </p>

<p>Roy - I have been stewing about your coverage of the Brenda Martin case since last weekend when you covered (one side) of the story over several days.  Something about your coverage didn't sit right with me and I ended up turning your show off half way through - every day(not something a radio host wants to hear I am sure), however I do not believe that you provided balanced coverage on this matter.  There are ALWAYS two sides to every story and it appears that you fell hook, line and sinker for Brenda's and her friends and supporters (and dare I say, certain political parties that love to use dead people and jailed people for political gain). </p>

<p>At the time that you were railing away at SH to "pick up the phone", I was yelling at the radio as to what you expected the president of Mexico to do - go and unlock the jail.  What exactly would you expect SH to do if we had a Mexican citizen in jail here and the president called SH demanding they be freed? I was also right in my assumption that the Tory government HAS been working on this case, a fact that you did not even attempt to bring out. </p>

<p>So now we have Brenda Martin herself - after pleading for help - calling the extra help "a dog and pony show" and saying that if she had to come back to Canada to go to jail, she wouldn't do it.  Roy, if I were as despondent and as suicidal as BM, I would take any hand held out to me.  </p>

<p>Roy, I am beginning to think that you have been duped by someone who wants their Get Out of Jail Free card.  This whole situation seems to be one of a series of mistakes made by Brenda herself and if you had taken the time to get the other side of the story, you may have found the following. </p>

<p>" The Mexican embassy yesterday released a statement defending its decision to hold a 51-year-old Canadian woman accused of links to an international fraud scheme. </p>

<p>"Brenda Kim Martin is detained, pursuant to the order of the competent Mexican Federal court," the release said, adding that she has been seen by doctors and Canadian diplomats in the two years she has been held. It said Ms. Martin's decisions to change lawyers and launch constitutional challenges have "significantly contributed to the delay in her trial." The statement concluded that, should Ms. Martin be convicted, treaties could allow her to serve her sentence in a Canadian prison. </p>

<p>Yesterday a distraught Ms. Martin called her meeting this week with Conservative MPs Jason Kenney and Rick Norlock "a dog and pony show."</p>

<p>"It was a photo op for them for political gain. And I am not a political pawn, and I don't care to be a political pawn any more. My life is at stake," she said in a telephone interview."</p>

<p>She has one thing right though, this is a dog and pony show, directed by none other than certain opposition party members who tried to use Schrieber (another get me out of jail case) and tried to use a dead MP and are now using a jailed woman to throw dirt on a government that has been quietly working behind the scenes on Brenda's case. </p>

<p>I used to look forward to your shows on the weekend, but I have to say, Roy, after how you treated this story, I will continue to turn the radio off when your program comes on.  </p>

<p>I was just going to leave it at not listening to you, but felt that you needed to know that one person will be turning the radio off - might not make one iota of difference to you but I wanted you to know none the less. </p>

<p>Good luck.  </p>

<p>Unfortunately, I will not be listening to him as promised, so will not know if he has changed his direction on reporting this or not. </p>

<p>If anyone else wants to write him with their thoughts, his e-mail address is below.   </p>

<p>roy.green@corusent.com </p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: Alberta Girl  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254490">March 21, 2008  7:45 AM</a></span>
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<p>""You have to write more, Kate."</p>

<p>The secret to good writing is to wait until you actually have something to say. "</p>

<p>you're way too modest, Kate.  If any were doubters, cat was out of the bag when you handed WK his cojones in the Nat Post scoop.  From an independent <i>artist</i>, in our streets, in Canada.  Who'd a thunk it.  Bravo, young lady!</p>
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<p>Alberta Girl  Your post motivated me to send the following to Roy Green.</p>

<p>I listened to your show last Sunday and was moved to email the PM.   Since then I have learned more about the situation and now I have deep regrets about sending that email. Please ensure that your show gathers more of the facts before broadcasting something that was negative to the Conservatives, especially with the by elections occurring the next day. In fact I suggest that your show changed the course of the Vancouver Quadra election.<br />
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<p>Re: ET's research that others have commented on.  <br />
Obviously MSM has the skill to get that info ... but apparently not the desire.</p>

<p>I am usually extremely reluctant to make conspiracy claims (people simply aren't smart/disciplined enough) but it's crystal clear that MSM isn't covering the whole story because this woman is a exceedingly unsavory sort, ironically the very sort that the Liberal oligarchy usually pretends to despise.</p>

<p>A conspiracy of silence.</p>

<p>We're in a revolution here as evidenced by the sheer desperation of the liberal oligarchy.  They're losing it.</p>
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<p>I wasn't going to read 140+ comments to see if I was the only one who thought her first tearfull plea sounded like that little trans gendered persons Youtube rant on leaving a certain female singer alone. Just wanted to point it out,just incase;)</p>
<span class="comments-post">Posted by: al kenny  at <a href="http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008308.html#c254617">March 21, 2008  1:47 PM</a></span>
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<p>Brenda Martin, related to Paul Martin?</p>

<p>Charged with fraud and money laundering, seems that she would be the perfect Lie-beral candidate for Stephanie D-Yawn to parachute into some riding.</p>
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